Tuesday, April 17, 2007

Interesting...

December 3, 1985
Top Five Cities in U.S. By 2000 Are Projected

AP
Los Angeles will grow to be the nation's most populous metropolitan area by the turn of the century, topping New York, while San Francisco will surpass the rest of the nation in personal income, new Government projections show.

A study by the Commerce Department's Bureau of Economic Analysis projects that the population in the Los Angeles metropolitan area will grow to 8,870,000 by the year 2000.

That would surpass New York, which is expected to have 8,433,000 people at that time. The analysis projects growth of 13.5 percent in Los Angeles from 1983 to 2000, and of only 1.7 percent for New York.

The new projections, released today, cover the 55 largest metropolitan areas in the nation, those expected to have a population of 1 million people or more in the year 2000.

The nation's five largest metropolitan areas in 2000 are expected to be Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, 6,131,000; Philadelphia, 4,914,000; and Boston, 4,301,000.>

Vertical Cemetaries

From Editor at HAIF



Quote:>
This is a picture near Tsing Yi in (New Territories, Hong Kong S.A.R.) which shows how they bury people in very high-density areas. Flat land is for the living. Dead people get the hill. You can see how steep the cliff is from the stairway on the left side. I saw dozens of these things on the cliffs.
>Also:
Quote:>
Don't laugh. They've been burying people standing up in Britain and Europe for years, and now I hear the practice is spreading to Australia, the Phillipines and other parts of the far east. There's only so much land, and it's getting more expensive all the time. It won't be long before vertical burials will come to this country. At least three people can be buried vertically in the space it takes to bury someone horizontally. You do the math.
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Economy: Poverty rate slightly down, real incomes higher

US Poverty Stabilizes in 2005, Incomes Slightly Up

By Stephanie Ho
Washington
29 August 2006

The U.S. Census Bureau says poverty in the United States last year remained unchanged after four consecutive years of increases. The agency's 2005 report also found incomes in the United States rose slightly last year, for the first time since 1999.

The Census Bureau's David Johnson says there was no significant change in the U.S. poverty rate in 2005 from the previous year. "The period following the latest recession was a period of falling income and rising poverty rates. However, after four years of consecutive increases, the poverty rate stabilized at 12.6 percent in 2005, and 37 million people."

According to the Census Bureau, the U.S. median household income was up 1.1% in 2005 from the year before, to $46,300. The Census Bureau's median figure reflects the point at which half of the more than 71,700 households surveyed make more and half make less.

In its survey for 2005, the Census Bureau used different figures to determine poverty, based on the size of the family. For example, the annual poverty threshold for a family of four was $19,971. For individuals, the figure was $9,973.

The report recognizes four ethnic groups - white, black, Hispanic and Asian households. In 2005, black households had the lowest median income, while Asian households had the highest median income.

It also shows that the northeastern United States has the highest household income, followed by the west and the midwest. Households in the U.S. south had the lowest median incomes.

Another figure that remained unchanged last year was the ratio of female to male earnings. The report says that for every dollar a man made in a full-time job, a woman made 77 cents.

The statistics presented Tuesday come exactly one year after Hurricane Katrina struck the Gulf coast. Johnson said they do not completely capture the effects of that storm or Hurricane Rita on overall U.S. poverty figures. "So, it covers the entire calendar period, so those poverty rates only have four months after the hurricanes," he said.

http://www.voanews.com/english/2006-08-29-voa74.cfm>

Old Interstate System Map

I found this website that has the map of the proposed interstate system from back in 1939:





Yellow Book>

Most confusing airport....

I honestly have not been to the majority of US Airports. Which airport from either your experience or some other source do you feel is the most confusing? D-FW gets my vote...for many reasons.


(i just picked the 15 largest airports.)>

The California Coastline

I think this is one of the most beautiful places in the country i've ever seen. forget all the skyscrapers, i would love to take a wiff of this fresh air

Monterey






random




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watch thai tv

check out www.siamovie.com have many tv program and etc...>

could a 21st century city have "character"

If you look at pictures of virtually every US city posted on the board, there is a quality that they all share in common: character. And so much of that character comes from the craftsmenship of individuals who built and designed structured in an earlier, simplier time with an ability to include detail that would be hard to replicate in today's world.

Our cities, of course, are equally (or often more) proud of modern develoments that have added excitement and pizzaz and a "wow!" factor to their existence.

Yet for all the pleasure and the necesssity of the modern, its the older structures that give our cities their sense of place and differentiate them from each other.

So theoretically what would happen if you could creat a totally new city in the US, a large city as opposed to the smaller scale efforts we have seen in the last half of the 20th century.

This city could be exciting and inviting. But could it have character?? That's the question here: Is it possible to develop true urban character in an era when technology is as advanced, when virtually all decisions on the sturctures we build are on a corportate level, when the individuality of cities has been overrun by a common culture?

Have we, in fact, passed a "character threshold", never to go back because of our technology (and its effect on individual craftsmanship) and the homogenizaton of national (and global) cultures? Is it just possible that somewhere around WWII, we crossed a point where a city could control its own environment and create its own world with a period of erasing differences and the elimination of those special qualities of place?

Could my theoretical 21st century city be exciting and beautiful and fun...yet (no matter what it did) go forever without true "character" based on the age in which it was created?>

A little humor

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20060330/D8GM62SOA.html>

Cities that you want to see come back

You can vote for more than one, as many as you like, but vote for any city you wish to see make a comeback, a city you like and would like more if it turned around for the better.

Enjoy.>

Which American city is most "Canadian"?

Which American city evokes Canada the most? Which American city is most associated with Canada? Which American skyline looks most Canadian?>

Which non-American city is least American but also most Japanese?

Any takers?

Since we're starting so many stupid threads about "which American city is least American" or "which European City is most American?" or "which Canadian city is least Canadian" or whatever then this thread is the natural end-point to such discussions.>

New Page

I've found this new page.....

Amerika-Info>

Is DC/Balt different from existing two city metros

Is the Washington-Baltimore metro area fundamentally different from any other metro area in the country?

Here's my perspective (and I'm not sure if it is right or wrong):

First of all, no two major cities are as close to each other as Washington and Baltimore that were once thought of us as separate metro areas.

In other words, that 45 miles or so is the closest distance between major US cities that developed as on their own.

Thus Baltimore and Washington have a different relationship between each other than such places as:

Dallas and Fort Worth

San Francisco, Oakland, and San Jose

Minneapolis and St. Paul

That's because the Metroplex, Bay Area, and Twin Cities are long standing metro areas that have been bi- or tri-modal for a long period of time. In essence, in each of these 3 metros, whether you were in one city or the other, you were in the same place.

Not so with Baltimore and Washington.

I look at DC/Balt. being the model for future such developments (although nothing comparable exists today). By future, I'm thinking:

Chicago-Milwaukee
LA-SD
New York-Phila.

These adjacent metro areas have about twice the distance between each other (about 90 mi) as DC/Balt, but further in-fill will create a similiar situation to what we see in DC/Balt today.

Am I on to something......or way, way off base?>

The Midwest Raceth Ahead>>>>>>>>>

well according to these numbers...it's doing just fine.....tyvm....

chicago 3.8% is growing faster than
New York???

Minneapolis 5.9% is growing faster than
Los Angeles 4.5%

Des Moines 8.5% is growing faster than
miami 8.3%

detroit 0.8% is growing faster than
boston 0.5%

the twin cities 5.9% are growing faster than
seattle 5.2%

st. louis 3.8% is growing faster than
san jose 1.1%

grandrapids 4.1% is growing faster than
honolulu 3.3%

indianapolis 7.6% is growing faster than
san diego 4.3%

columbus 5.9% is growing faster than
memphis 4.6%

omaha 6.0% is growing faster than
greensboro NC 4.8%

madison 7% is growing faster than
salt Lake 6.8%

AND

cincinnati 3.0% is ALSO growing faster than
san jose 1.1%


the Midwest seems to be on the rebound.>

NCAA Final Four - Indianapolis

Excitement on the Circle
Heart of the city will be beating during Final Four weekend



Anticipating a turnout of at least 100,000 fans, organizers of the NCAA's Final Four weekend are planning one very big party.

Actually, there'll be a bunch of parties -- some private, some public -- musical acts and pep rallies during the three-day weekend, March 31 to April 2, all centered on Monument Circle.
The idea is to turn Indianapolis' famous Circle into a smaller version of the nation's most famous square.
"The vision of the NCAA is to have a Times Square effect at the epicenter of Monument Circle," said Vince Thompson, chief executive of Creative Presence Partners, an Atlanta-based event planning firm working with Coca-Cola, sponsor of the Final Four festivities.
Aside from college hoops, the biggest draws: John Mellencamp, Carrie Underwood from "American Idol" and a stage setup that promises the latest in high-tech lighting and sound.
The crowds won't match the 750,000 who jam New York's Times Square for New Year's Eve. But those who attend will enjoy a similar mix of bright lights, video boards, live music and tent parties.
That all sounds good to Jim Canull, Carmel, a 1965 University of North Carolina graduate who heads up the local Tar Heels fan club.
He doesn't have tickets to any of the games, but he plans to join the party anyway.
"Oh yeah, just to experience what is going on," Canull said. "This is a time when a lot of people are taking off for Florida. Knowing that the Final Four is here, I elected to pass on the vacation so I could stay around and experience this."
How will this scene compare with other big-ticket events Downtown?
On the Friday after Thanksgiving every year, when the city lights up Monument Circle, about 100,000 people jam onto the Circle and along its four "spokes."
On Final Four weekend, crowds are expected to fill the Circle and three of the four spokes (the north side will be closed for security), as well as Meridian Street for several blocks south and Market Street both east and west, event planners said.
Exactly how many people?
Some predict more than 100,000 on Sunday alone. But when you consider three days of attractions and related activities -- such as the popular fan attraction Hoop City at the Convention Center -- the weekend attendance might top 250,000.
"I would put this event right up there with the tree-lighting and (IPL 500 Festival Parade)" in May, said Bob Schultz, spokesman for the Indianapolis Convention and Visitors Association.
And a lot of it will be absolutely free.
A 50-foot-wide concert stage will be set 30 feet above the ground and include at least three giant video screens. Several other screens will be placed around the Circle, including two, facing east and west, inside the monument's fountains, which will be emptied.
Additional video panels -- at least 11 in all -- will be placed along the streets leading away from the stage so that more in the crowd can watch whatever is under way onstage.
"It's going to be like landing a spaceship on Monument Circle," said David Knopp, a sponsorship director for the NCAA.
Setup will begin next weekend. Video boards will be turned on the morning of March 31, and the party will last for three days.
Given the size of the crowds, organizers expect congestion for several blocks south, east and west of the city's epicenter.
Indianapolis officials are working on plans to handle traffic and parking issues. Their basic advice: Plan to park a few blocks away from the Circle, and don't count on being able to drive through Downtown to find a better spot.
The extra traffic is not necessarily a negative in some minds.
"It's an excitement that is a whole new level for us," said Julia Watson, vice president of marketing for Indianapolis Downtown Inc., which tracks more than 2,500 Downtown events and conventions each year.
"I think it really enhances the whole Final Four experience, whether you have a ticket to the games or not."
Indeed, all eyes will be on Indianapolis as the top four NCAA men's basketball teams battle for a national championship at the RCA Dome, bringing in a guaranteed 40,000-plus ticket-holders and the requisite media horde.
"I love the whole 'epicenter' and Times Square vibe," Schultz said. "It's time for Indy to shine with the big boys and for our perception to catch up to our reality."


TOP CROWDS

At least 100,000 people are expected at Final Four weekend events. That would make it one of the biggest draws in Downtown Indianapolis:

Labor Day SkyConcert: 400,000.
July 4 fireworks: 250,000.
Indy 500 Parade: 250,000.
Circle of Lights: 100,000.
Circle City Classic: 80,000.

• Sources: Event planners, Star research

FINAL FOUR FUN
• NCAA Hall of Champions -- 100 Years, 100 Hours. The hall will be open 100 consecutive hours with special activities. Cost: Adults $3, students $2. Information: www.NCAAhallofchampions.org or call (317) 916-HALL (916-4255).

• NCAA Hoop City -- A four-day interactive fan festival at the Indiana Convention Center. Cost: $7 (12 and older); $5 (ages 3-11, college students, adults 55 and older and military); free (2 and younger). Info: www.Hoop-City.com.

• Final Four Friday -- Team practices at the RCA Dome from noon to 4 p.m. March 31. Gates open at 10:30 a.m. Cost: Free.

• NABC College All-Star Game -- Current all-stars battle the Harlem Globetrotters at Conseco Fieldhouse, 7:30 p.m. March 31. Tickets: Can be obtained through Ticketmaster. Info:
www.indianasportscorp.com/finalfour.

• YES Clinics -- Kids get lessons on hoops from college coaches and athletes at various locations across the city, 8 a.m. to noon April 1. Locations: Butler University, University of Indianapolis, Municipal Gardens Park and Washington Park. Cost: Free. Kids must be 10-18 years old and preregistered. Info: www.YESclinics.org.

• Circle City Dribble -- More than 3,000 fans will dribble basketballs from White River State Park to Hoop City beginning at 12:30 p.m. April 2. Cost: Free. Info: www.indianasportscorp.com/finalfour.

Source: Indiana Sports Corp.

A PLANNER FOR FINAL FOUR EVENTS ON THE CIRCLE
Here's a breakdown of Final Four weekend events at Monument Circle. All events are free.

Friday
Incoming NCAA fans will get a taste of the atmosphere as the giant video boards are turned on. Vendors will sell food and beverages from 3 to 10 p.m.

Saturday
They're calling it "The Big Dance," and it will be part concert and part pep rally. Nick Lachey will host.

From 11 a.m. to 3 p.m., musical acts will include The BoDeans, Hoobastank, the Virgin Millionaires and country singer Steve Holy.

At 3 p.m., the Circle shifts into "The World's Largest Pep Rally" featuring cheerleaders, pep bands, mascots and special guests from each of the Final Four teams.

Both games Saturday night will be shown live on the giant video boards around the Circle.

Sunday
John Mellencamp will headline a daylong concert with an evening performance. But the beat starts popping around 2 p.m. American Idol's Carrie Underwood will be joined by Collective Soul, Michelle Branch and young R&B star Chris Brown to warm up the crowd.

Source: Final Four planners>

Louisville wins first place in the Annual City Cultural Diversity Awards

City wins cultural diversity award


By ASHLEY KIM
Staff Writer
news@louisvillecardinal.com

April 04, 2006


The City of Louisville won first place in the Annual City Cultural Diversity Awards, recently, thanks largely to the work of the Louisville Metro Office for International Affairs.

The award, sponsored by the National League of Cities and administered in conjunction with the National Black Caucus of Local Elected Officials, honors cities promitng to cultural diversity.

Louisville competed against four other cities with 400,000 or more plus residents.

Â"The City Cultural Diversity Award was developed to showcase cities and honor their community leadership in developing creative and effective programs designed to improve and promote cultural diversity,Â" stated Sandra Arez, Staff Associate and overseer of constituency group programs at NLC, the oldest and largest national organization representing municipal governments throughout the United States.

One of NLCÂ's goals is to build more inclusive communities, said Latricia Good, NLCÂ's Media Associate. Good added that while not every citizen of a community is affected directly by programs such as OIA, success within one area of a community, implicates success overall.

Â"[The award] is a testament to the good work that the city is doing,Â" said Office Director, Omar Ayyesh. Â"Not necessarily at The Office for International Affairs, but all Louisville Metro [agencies].Â"

Over the past 15 years, immigrants have accounted for approximately 50 percent of LouisvilleÂ's population growth. The Louisville Metro Office for International Affairs (OIA) was created in 1999 in response to this growth. Its mission statement is: Â"OIA supports and promotes a vibrant, successful, interconnected, multicultural community through awareness, advocacy and referral.Â"

Â"We are not a direct service provider,Â" said Jeremy Morris, OIA International Program Specialist. OIA, through its work with other organizations, fulfills its objectives in a number of ways.

One of the key programs for which Louisville was recognized, according to Morris, is the International Citizens Police Academy, conceived by OIA and implemented by the Louisville Metro Police Department.

Due to the nature of the circumstances they fled, refugees may harbor a negative perception of law-enforcement agencies. In attempt to clarify misconceptions, the 12-week program educates attendees about many facets of police work.

Â"The issues of the immigrant community are different from those of native citizens,Â" said Officer Minerva Virola, Community Relations at LMPD. For example, because of cultural differences, many immigrants donÂ't know what to do when they get pulled over, Virola said. In addition to providing information about how to handle everyday situations, the courses detail everything from the definition of homicide to the training received by officers.

In addition to overseeing programs that assist immigrants, OIA also collaborates with organizations to catalog information that is of use to the entire community. For the past three years, the catalog has materialized as the International Directory.

Â"For international newcomers, the directory sends a welcoming message and assists them in their transition by acting as a referral for organizations and services in our community,Â" said OIA International Program Specialist, Jennifer Ratoff. Â"For others, the directory demonstrates how diverse Louisville truly is and provides people and businesses the opportunity to learn about and reach a targeted population.Â"

The directory includes a brief description of and contact information for everything from interpreter and translation services, career and business resources, educational institutions, government and public/social services, to entertainment and cultural attractions and an international dining guide. It is mass distributed to Jefferson County Public Schools, all area colleges and universities, Neighborhood Place locations, and Family Health Centers, among others.

International Program Adviser Anshu Anand said that U of LÂ's International Center receives copies of the directory and distributes them to students for free.

Senior Business major, Hao Dang, who immigrated to Louisville from Vietnam in 1991, pointed out what he sees as a flaw in the directory: itÂ's printed in English. Dang recalled his first years in the US when no one in his family could speak or read English.

Often times, however, the directory is used by organizations who are able to translate the information for immigrants, if necessary.

Gioconda Guerra, a graduate student in the School of Education, said that as a volunteer for the Hispanic/Latino Coalition, she often uses the directory to get information about, and refer the immigrants she works with to, various service providers.

Not only does the Office make resources available to immigrants it also exposes the community at large to international culture.

As a kick-off to SeptemberÂ's International Heritage month events, WorldFest takes place on the Belvedere and allows people to browse information booths and sample foods from many different countries.

What started four years ago as a one-day program that lasted about four hours, has grown into a two-day program that lasted 12-hours each day and attracted about 50,000 people last year, Morris said.

OIA also provides financial support for other events with similar goals.

For the past four or five years, they have provided funding for U of LÂ's own International Banquet, said Anand.

Â"The thing I like about the Office is that itÂ's not one-dimensional,Â" said Terry Singer, Dean of the Kent School and member of OIAÂ's Advisory Council.

In addition to working with agencies that provide services and spreading awareness through community events, OIA also works with governmental bodies such as Greater Louisville Inc, Metro GovernmentÂ's traditional Chamber of Commerce and regional economic development agency, to look at the economic aspects of internationalism.

Â"The emerging workforce is more diverse than it has ever been,Â" said Parminder Jassal, Executive Director of Workforce Solutions at GLI. Jassal noted the importance of the immigrant population to the economy, citing its role in the cityÂ's population growth.

LouisvilleÂ's international community is currently the subject of a study that is scheduled to be finished in a few months. The study, conducted by the Urban Institute, a nonpartisan economic and social policy research organization, is being sponsored by GLI and Kentuckiana Works. Its findings will be issued by OIA.

The results will summarize many aspects of the international community, including where and what kind of work is being done by internationals, said Jassal. The studyÂ's purpose is Â"so our region can get an idea of what the international community looks like, and what they need to prepare for and strategically plan for,Â" Jassal added.
http://www.louisvillecardinal.com/vn.../4430303cc4a13>

Philadelphia area #1

CNN/Money ranks Philadelphia Metro Area Moorestown, NJ Best place to Live.
Your Thoughts?

http://money.cnn.com/best/bplive/top100_1.html



1 Moorestown, NJ 20,700 Philadelphia
2 Bainbridge Island, WA 21,600 Seattle
3 Naperville, IL 163,900 Chicago
4 Vienna, VA 61,700 Washington, DC
5 Louisville, CO 32,400 Boulder
6 Barrington, RI 16,800 Providence
7 Middleton, WI 21,400 Madison
8 Peachtree City, GA 35,800 Atlanta
9 Chatham, NJ 17,600 New York City
10 Mill Valley, CA 29,200 San Francisco
11 Larchmont, NY 18,200 New York City
12 Greenwich, CT 62,000 Stamford
13 Westwood, MA 14,500 Boston
14 Blue Bell, PA 19,700 Philadelphia
15 Princeton, NJ 48,700 Trenton
16 Chanhassen, MN 22,100 Minneapolis
17 Gaithersburg, MD 132,500 Washington, DC
18 Powell, OH 30,300 Columbus
19 Mequon-Thiensville, WI 23,400 Milwaukee
20 Ellicott City, MD 72,000 Baltimore
21 Yorba Linda, CA 64,400 Los Angeles
22 Delmar, NY 16,300 Albany
23 Papillion, NE 27,400 Omaha
24 Fishers, IN 48,900 Indianapolis
25 Coronado, CA 23,800 San Diego>

Neo Gothic churches in North America

Would anybody out there have any pictures of Neo Gothic churches in any part of North America. I am thinking especially of works by Keeley and by E.W. Pugin. Thanks>

Top U.S. Refineries

http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/rankings/refineries.htm

Rank COMPANY NAME STATE SITE Barrels per Calendar Day
1 EXXONMOBIL REFINING & SUPPLY CO Texas BAYTOWN 557,000
2 EXXONMOBIL REFINING & SUPPLY CO Louisana BATON ROUGE 493,500
3 BP PRODUCTS NORTH AMERICA INC Texas TEXAS CITY 437,000
4 BP PRODUCTS NORTH AMERICA INC Indiana WHITING 410,000
5 EXXONMOBIL REFINING & SUPPLY CO Texas BEAUMONT 348,500
6 SUNOCO INC (R&M) Pennsylvania PHILADELPHIA 335,000
7 DEER PARK REFINING LTD PARTNERSHIP Texas DEER PARK 333,700
8 CHEVRON USA INC Mississippi PASCAGOULA 325,000
9 CITGO PETROLEUM CORP Louisana LAKE CHARLES 324,300
10 CONOCOPHILLIPS Illinois WOOD RIVER 306,000
11 FLINT HILLS RESOURCES LP Texas CORPUS CHRISTI 288,126
12 MOTIVA ENTERPRISES LLC Texas PORT ARTHUR 285,000
13 LYONDELL CITGO REFINING CO LTD Texas HOUSTON 270,200
14 FLINT HILLS RESOURCES LP Minnesota SAINT PAUL 265,000
15 BP WEST COAST PRODUCTS LLC California LOS ANGELES 260,000
16 CHEVRON USA INC California EL SEGUNDO 260,000
17 PREMCOR REFINING GROUP INC Texas PORT ARTHUR 255,000
18 CONOCOPHILLIPS Louisana BELLE CHASSE 247,000
19 MARATHON ASHLAND PETROLEUM LLC Louisana GARYVILLE 245,000
20 CHEVRON USA INC California RICHMOND 242,901
21 CONOCOPHILLIPS Louisana WESTLAKE 239,400
22 EXXONMOBIL REFINING & SUPPLY CO Illinois JOLIET 238,000
23 MOTIVA ENTERPRISES LLC Louisana CONVENT 235,000
24 TOTAL PETROCHEMICALS INC Texas PORT ARTHUR 233,500
25 CONOCOPHILLIPS New Jersey LINDEN 230,000
26 CONOCOPHILLIPS Texas SWEENY 229,000
27 MOTIVA ENTERPRISES LLC Louisana NORCO 226,500
28 BP WEST COAST PRODUCTS LLC Washington FERNDALE (CHERRY POINT 225,000
29 MARATHON ASHLAND PETROLEUM LLC Kentucky CATLETTSBURG 222,000
30 FLINT HILLS RESOURCES ALASKA LLC Alaska NORTH POLE 210,000
31 VALERO REFINING CO TEXAS Texas TEXAS CITY 209,950
32 CONOCOPHILLIPS Oklahoma PONCA CITY 194,000
33 MARATHON ASHLAND PETROLEUM LLC Illinois ROBINSON 192,000
34 CHALMETTE REFINING LLC Louisana CHALMETTE 187,200
35 VALERO SAINT CHARLES REFINERY Louisana NORCO 185,003
36 CONOCOPHILLIPS Pennsylvania TRAINER 185,000
37 PREMCOR REFINING GROUP INC Tennessee MEMPHIS 180,000
38 SUNOCO INC Pennsylvania MARCUS HOOK 175,000
39 PREMCOR REFINING GROUP INC Delaware DELAWARE CITY 175,000
40 TESORO REFINING & MARKETING CO California MARTINEZ 166,000
41 BP PRODUCTS NORTH AMERICA INC Ohio TOLEDO 160,000
42 SUNOCO INC Ohio TOLEDO 160,000
43 VALERO REFINING CO NEW JERSEY New Jersey PAULSBORO 160,000
44 PDV MIDWEST REFINING LLC Illinois LEMONT (CHICAGO) 160,000
45 PREMCOR REFINING GROUP INC Ohio LIMA 158,400
46 VALERO ENERGY CORPORATION Texas SUNRAY 158,327
47 CITGO REFINING & CHEMICAL INC Texas CORPUS CHRISTI 156,000
48 SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US California MARTINEZ 152,700
49 EXXONMOBIL REFINING & SUPPLY CO California TORRANCE 149,500
50 CONOCOPHILLIPS Texas BORGER 146,000
51 SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US Washington ANACORTES 145,000
52 SUNOCO INC New Jersey WESTVILLE 145,000
53 VALERO REFINING CO CALIFORNIA California BENICIA 144,000
54 VALERO REFINING CO TEXAS Texas CORPUS CHRISTI 142,000
55 CONOCOPHILLIPS California WILMINGTON 139,000
56 MURPHY OIL USA INC Louisana MERAUX 120,000
57 TESORO WEST COAST Washington ANACORTES 115,000
58 COFFEYVILLE RESOURCES REFINING & MKG Kansas COFFEYVILLE 112,000
59 WESTERN REFINING COMPANY LP Texas EL PASO 107,000
60 FRONTIER REFINING & MARKETING INC Kansas EL DORADO 103,000
61 CROWN CENTRAL PETROLEUM CORP Texas PASADENA 100,000
62 SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US California WILMINGTON 98,500
63 CONOCOPHILLIPS Washington FERNDALE 96,000
64 TESORO HAWAII CORP Hawaii EWA BEACH 93,500
65 VALERO ENERGY CORPORATION Texas THREE RIVERS 90,000
66 SUNOCO INC Oklahoma TULSA 85,000
67 TPI PETROLEUM INC Oklahoma ARDMORE 83,161
68 VALERO REFINING CO TEXAS Texas HOUSTON 83,000
69 NCRA Kansas MCPHERSON 81,200
70 ULTRAMAR INC California WILMINGTON 80,887
71 CHEVRON USA INC New Jersey PERTH AMBOY 80,000
72 VALERO REFINING CO LOUISIANA Louisana KROTZ SPRINGS 80,000
73 SHELL CHEM LP Alabama SARALAND 80,000
74 NAVAJO REFINING CO New Mexico ARTESIA 75,000
75 MARATHON ASHLAND PETROLEUM LLC Michigan DETROIT 74,000
76 CONOCOPHILLIPS California RODEO 73,200
77 MARATHON ASHLAND PETROLEUM LLC Ohio CANTON 73,000
78 MARATHON ASHLAND PETROLEUM LLC Texas TEXAS CITY 72,000
79 TESORO PETROLEUM CORP Alaska KENAI 72,000
80 SINCLAIR OIL CORP Oklahoma TULSA 70,300
81 MARATHON ASHLAND PETROLEUM LLC Minnesota SAINT PAUL PARK 70,000
82 LION OIL CO Arkansas EL DORADO 70,000
83 SINCLAIR OIL CORP Wyoming SINCLAIR 66,000
84 SHELL OIL PRODUCTS US California BAKERSFIELD 66,000
85 UNITED REFINING CO Pennsylvania WARREN 65,000
86 ALON USA LP Texas BIG SPRING 61,000
87 EXXONMOBIL REFINING & SUPPLY CO Montana BILLINGS 60,000
88 SUNCOR ENERGY (USA) INC Colorado COMMERCE CITY 60,000
89 GIANT YORKTOWN REFINING Virginia YORKTOWN 58,600
90 TESORO WEST COAST Utah SALT LAKE CITY 58,000
91 TESORO WEST COAST North Dakota MANDAN 58,000
92 CONOCOPHILLIPS Montana BILLINGS 58,000
93 LA GLORIA OIL & GAS CO Texas TYLER 55,000
94 CENEX HARVEST STATES COOP Montana LAUREL 55,000
95 SHELL CHEM LP Louisana SAINT ROSE 55,000
96 CHEVRON USA INC Hawaii HONOLULU 54,000
97 WYNNEWOOD REFINING CO Oklahoma WYNNEWOOD 52,500
98 CITGO ASPHALT REFINING CO New Jersey PAULSBORO 51,000
99 PARAMOUNT PETROLEUM CORP California PARAMOUNT 50,000
100 PLACID REFINING CO Louisana PORT ALLEN 48,500
101 PETRO STAR INC Alaska VALDEZ 48,000
102 FRONTIER REFINING INC Wyoming CHEYENNE 46,000
103 CHEVRON USA INC Utah SALT LAKE CITY 45,000
104 CONOCOPHILLIPS California ARROYO GRANDE 41,800
105 US OIL & REFINING CO Washington TACOMA 35,150
106 CALUMET SHREVEPORT LLC Louisana SHREVEPORT 35,000
107 HUNT REFINING CO Alabama TUSCALOOSA 33,500
108 MURPHY OIL USA INC Wisconsin SUPERIOR 33,000
109 CALCASIEU REFINING CO Louisana LAKE CHARLES 30,000
110 BIG WEST OIL CO Utah NORTH SALT LAKE 29,400
111 CITGO ASPHALT REFINING CO Georgia SAVANNAH 28,000
112 COLORADO REFINING CO Colorado COMMERCE CITY 27,000
113 EDGINGTON OIL CO INC California LONG BEACH 26,000
114 KERN OIL & REFINING CO California BAKERSFIELD 25,000
115 HOLLY CORP REFINING & MARKETING Utah WOODS CROSS 24,700
116 LITTLE AMERICA REFINING CO Wyoming EVANSVILLE (CASPER) 24,500
117 SAN JOAQUIN REFINING CO INC California BAKERSFIELD 24,300
118 ERGON REFINING INC Mississippi VICKSBURG 23,000
119 COUNTRYMARK COOPERATIVE INC Indiana MOUNT VERNON 23,000
120 GIANT REFINING CO New Mexico GALLUP 20,800
121 ERGON WEST VIRGINIA INC West Virginia NEWELL (CONGO) 19,400
122 PETRO STAR INC Alaska NORTH POLE 17,000
123 GIANT INDUSTRIES INC New Mexico BLOOMFIELD 16,800
124 TRIGEANT EP LTD Alabama MOBILE 16,700
125 CONOCOPHILLIPS ALASKA INC Alaska KUPARUK 14,000
126 CALUMET LUBRICANTS CO LP Louisana COTTON VALLEY 13,020
127 WYOMING REFINING CO Wyoming NEWCASTLE 12,500
128 BP EXPLORATION ALASKA INC Alaska PRUDHOE BAY 12,500
129 HUNT SOUTHLAND REFINING CO Mississippi SANDERSVILLE 11,000
130 AGE REFINING INC Texas SAN ANTONIO 10,308
131 SILVER EAGLE REFINING Utah WOODS CROSS 10,250
132 AMERICAN REFINING GROUP INC Pennsylvania BRADFORD 10,000
133 GREKA ENERGY California SANTA MARIA 9,500
134 LUNDAY THAGARD CO California SOUTH GATE 8,500
135 CALUMET LUBRICANTS CO LP Louisana PRINCETON 8,300
136 MONTANA REFINING CO Montana GREAT FALLS 8,200
137 CROSS OIL REFINING & MARKETING INC Arkansas SMACKOVER 6,800
138 VALERO REFINING CO CALIFORNIA California WILMINGTON 6,200
139 HUNT SOUTHLAND REFINING CO Mississippi LUMBERTON 5,800
140 SOMERSET REFINERY INC Kentucky SOMERSET 5,500
141 SILVER EAGLE REFINING Wyoming EVANSTON 3,000
142 TENBY INC California OXNARD 2,800
143 FORELAND REFINING CORP Nevada EAGLE SPRINGS 1,707
144 DOW HALTERMANN PRODUCTS Texas CHANNELVIEW 880


The Story of Oil in Pennsylvania

The most important oil well ever drilled was in the middle of quiet farm country in northwestern Pennsylvania in 1859. For this was one of the first successful oil wells that was drilled for the sole purpose of finding oil. Known as the Drake Well, after "Colonel" Edwin Drake, the man responsible for the well, it began an international search for petroleum, and in many ways eventually changed the way we live.

http://www.priweb.org/ed/pgws/histor...nsylvania.html>

Cal Berkeley leads all US schools in patents for 12th straight year!

UC leads patent list for 12th year, Stanford moves up to No. 4
East Bay Business Times - 11:11 AM PDT Friday

The University of California was the school with the most patents for the 12th straight year in 2005 and Stanford University moved up to No. 4

The annual ranking by the United States Patent and Trademark office showed the University of California with 390 patents for inventions, down from its 424 from 2004.

Stanford University received 90 patents in 2005, up from 75 the previous year, placing it in a tie for fourth place with the University of Texas, whose total dropped from 101 in 2004.

The California Institute of Technology in Pasadena, whose patent total dropped to 101 from 135, was passed as No. 2 on the 2005 ranking by the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, whose total rose to 136 from 132.

In order, the top 10 included the University of California, the Massachusetts Institute of Technology, CalTech, Stanford, the University of Texas, the University of Wisconsin, Johns Hopkins University and the University of Michigan tied for sixth, University of Florida and Columbia University.

http://eastbay.bizjournals.com/eastb...ml?jst=b_ln_hl>

US views on....

What is the general impression of, UK, Canada, Australia, New zealand as seen by you guys. Give detail for each country serperatly.

P.>

What year (if at all) will Massachusetts become the 20th largest state?

Currently it's 13th. 2004 1-year growth 200-2004 growth

13. Massachusetts 6,416,505 -17,000 67,000
14. Indiana 6,237,569 42,000 157,000
15. Washington 6,203,788 72,000 309,000
16. Tennessee 5,900,962 59,000 211,000
17. Missouri 5,754,618 50,000 159,000
18. Arizona 5,743,834 163,000 613,000
19. Maryland 5,558,058 50,000 262,000
20. Wisconsin 5,509,026 37,000 146,000
21. Minnesota 5,100,958 42,000 181,000


or will it never happen?>

Worlds Largest Mint Facility (Philadelphia MINT)

Philadelphia Mint Worlds Largest Mint Facility


This is no mere nickel-and-dime operation. The Philadelphia Mint has the capacity to produce 1.8 million coins an hour, 32 million coins per day, and 13.5 billion coins every year.

E Pluribus Unum. This motto is found on all United States coinage. It means "out of many, one," indicating that the United States is just that — a united confederacy comprising several states, each with its own laws. But, should each mint its own coins?

The First Mint: Who Will Make The Money?
The United States' first mint — indeed the first structure sanctioned by the United States government — was erected in 1792, just two blocks from the present site. Many citizens of the new nation were deeply suspicious of federal power. They were accustomed to using coins issued by their own state banks, along with various forms of foreign currency. The suggestion of a single federal mint producing a uniform coinage was disturbing.

A coalition championed by adamant federalist Alexander Hamilton prevailed in these debates. The result was both the First Bank of the United States and a United States Mint.

The First Mint was completed in the fall of 1792 in the capital city of Philadelphia. As a new capital city was being built along the banks of the Potomac, it was expected that the Mint would move there. Yet in 1800, when Washington, D.C., was ready, the government did not have the money to replace what was already an efficient operation. An Act of Congress in 1828 ensured that the Mint would remain permanently in Philadelphia.

The First Mint Needs Silver...
The metal used to strike the first coins at the Mint came from the silver in George Washington's household goods. Washington keenly wanted the Mint to succeed. At the current site, you can view a painting by John Dunsmore, titled "First Coinage Inspection." The painting shows a seated Martha Washington surrounded by the President, Harry Voigt (who would become the first Chief Coiner), future President Thomas Jefferson, Secretary of the Treasury Alexander Hamilton, David Rittenhouse, the Mint's first director, and a few others. Martha is poised to inspect the first coins minted.

Credit for the success of the Mint belongs in great part to David Rittenhouse. In Philadelphia today, his name graces the city's most fashionable address — Rittenhouse Square, about a mile west of the Historic District. Like Benjamin Franklin and John Bartram (see Bartram's Gardens in this Virtual Tour), he was one of those extraordinary men of early Philadelphia with diverse interests who made manifold contributions: he was a clockmaker, philosopher, surveyor, mathematician, politician and astronomer; he determined the boundary between Pennsylvania and Maryland long before Mason and Dixon; many credit him with having built the first telescope made in the United States; he constructed an orrery, a device familiar mostly to astronomers and crossword solvers — it's a clocklike mechanism that describes the position of the planets as they orbit the sun; and, he was director of the Mint for its crucial first three years.

The Second Mint: Need More Space
By the late 1820s the original Mint lacked the space and capacity to keep up with the demand for coinage. A new Mint designed in the classic style favored by the federal government of Andrew Jackson's era was finished in 1833. It was located on Broad Street, about a half mile west of its current location.

The Third Mint: A Roman Temple
Again, a larger Mint was needed. The third Mint, built in 1901, still stands (it now houses Philadelphia Community College). It is a block long and has a Roman temple's facade. Marble is ubiquitous. Massive Ionic columns lead to a lobby with vaulted ceilings which were bejeweled with seven Tiffany glass mosaics. The mosaics depicted ancient Roman methods of coinage. Two of the mosaics are seen today at the current Mint.

The Fourth and Present Mint: What's There Now?
You guessed it! Once more, a larger Mint was needed — but also one with better access to highways and with more sophisticated security.

As a result, the latest Mint lacks the intimacy of the first Mint and the majesty of the second and third edifices. It is white, boxy, and nearly windowless. Upon entering the present Mint, one must place purses, bags, and backpacks on an airport-like conveyor belt for x-ray examination. A sign warns that no videotaping or cameras are allowed. An escalator leads to a long hallway with interior plate-glass windows on one side and a display built into the wall along the other. On your self-guided tour, you look down at the various operations taking place. Signs on the work floor clearly identify the processes — Bonding, Blanking, Annealing, Riddling, Upsetting, Striking, Inspecting, Counting, and Bagging. Flames shoot out from the tops of the annealing furnaces where the coins are heated. Countless shiny dimes pour from coining presses into overflowing containers. Forklifts heavy with copper profiles of Abraham Lincoln plod toward vaults. There are frequent signs telling you not to touch the glass. Nonetheless, kids and adults alike press their noses excitedly onto the window to gasp at the scene below. By pressing buttons along the way, recorded information details what is going on.

On the hallway's other wall is a history of United States Mints and an exhibition featuring the nearly 300 people who have been awarded Congressional gold medals (most of which were minted in Philadelphia). The first gold medal was awarded to George Washington. All Presidents and many military heroes have received gold medals, which show a likeness of the recipient. Gold medals have also been awarded to a diverse list of Great Americans, including Jesse Owens, John Wayne, Bob Hope, Marian Anderson, Walt Disney, Jonas Salk, Lady Bird Johnson, Joe Louis, Elie Wiesel, Matthew Perry, Robert Frost, and Harry Chapin.

There is also one for George Foster Robinson, whose story deserves to be told. He was a wounded Civil War soldier assigned to protect Lincoln's Secretary of State William Seward (the man who negotiated the purchase of Alaska) in 1865. On the fateful night Lincoln was assassinated, Seward was also targeted for assassination. Lewis Powell broke into the Secretary's quarters and rushed in on the sleeping Seward. Robinson interceded and though stabbed numerous times, managed to thwart the assailant and save Seward's life.

The Philadelphia mint also produces Bronze Stars and Purple Hearts awarded to military heroes.

Now you'll take the down escalator to the mezzanine where you find the David Rittenhouse Room. Exhibited are gold coins including the famed $20 pieces designed by the sculptor Augustus St. Gaudens. Also on display are early tools and hardware used to make coins and a deed to the original Mint.

Don't leave without seeing Peter, the Mint Eagle. As the story is told by Philadelphia historian John Francis Marion, early in the 19th century Peter adopted the Mint as his home and became a mascot. One day he was perched on a flywheel when it suddenly started. His wing was caught and broken and though tenderly cared for by his Mint mates, he died. Peter was mounted and is still with us today — the spirit of the past in the modern Mint. Some believe that Peter was the model for the eagle on the United States silver dollars (1836-39) and for the Flying Eagle cents (1856-58).


U.S. armed forces were created in Philadelphia 1775>

College graduates are flocking to America's big cities

http://www.cnn.com/2006/EDUCATION/04....ap/index.html

WASHINGTON (AP) -- College graduates are flocking to America's big cities, chasing jobs and culture and driving up home prices.
Though many of the largest cities have lost population in the past three decades, nearly all have added college graduates, an analysis by The Associated Press found.
The findings offer hope for urban areas, many of which have spent decades struggling with financial problems, job losses and high poverty rates.
But they also spell trouble for some cities, especially those in the Northeast and Midwest, that have fallen behind the South and West in attracting highly educated workers.
"The largest predictor of economic well-being in cities is the percent of college graduates," said Ned Hill, professor of economic development at Cleveland State University. To do well, he said, cities must be attractive to educated people.
Nationally, a little more than one-fourth of people 25 and older had at least bachelor's degrees in 2004. Some 84 percent had high school diplomas or the equivalent.
By comparison, in 1970 only a bit more than one in 10 adults had bachelor's degrees and about half had high school diplomas.
Seattle, Washington, was the best-educated city in 2004 with just over half the adults having bachelor's degrees. Following closely were San Francisco; Raleigh, North Carolina; Washington, D.C. and Austin, Texas.
Molly Wankel, who has a doctorate in educational administration, said she moved to the Washington area for a job, and the culture of the city pulled her from the suburbs. Wankel, 51, grew up in eastern Tennessee and works at a company that develops software and training materials. She recently bought a home in the city.
"I just enjoy walking around looking at the architecture and the way people have renovated these 100-year-old homes," Wankel said. "I love the landscaping and the lovely mix of many races, straight people, gays, singles, older people, younger people."
The AP analyzed census data from 21 of the largest cities from 1970 to 2004. The AP used every-10-year census data from 1970 to 2000, and the Census Bureau's American Community Survey for 2004.
The 21 cities were chosen because of their size and location to provide regional balance. The analysis was expanded for 2004, the latest year for data, to include all 70 cities with populations of 250,000 or more.
While most states in the Northeast have high percentages of college graduates, their big cities do not.
Massachusetts, Connecticut and New Jersey were among the top five states in the percentage of adults with college degrees in 2004. But the Northeast placed no city among the top five, and only one from the region -- Boston -- was in the top 20.

Paying more for brains than brawn
Cities with few college graduates have a hard time generating good-paying jobs. That, in turn, makes it hard to attract more college graduates, said Richard Vedder, an economics professor at Ohio University.
Cities such as Newark, New Jersey; Detroit, Michigan; and Cleveland, Ohio, have relatively few college graduates, which helps explain why they are struggling to recover from the decline of U.S. manufacturing, Vedder said.
Among the three, Cleveland had the largest share of college graduates in 2004, 14 percent of those 25 and older.
"Society is paying people more for their brains than for their brawn," Vedder said. "The nerds and the wimps and the geeks are ruling the world."
College graduates made about two-thirds more money than high school graduates in 2004, according to the Census Bureau. The median income -- the point at which half make more and half make less -- for adults with bachelor's degrees was $42,404. It was $25,360 for high school graduates.
Adults who did not graduate high school had a median income of $18,144.
Many cities with a lot of college graduates also have expensive homes, even with the softening real estate market.
San Francisco was the costliest in 2004, with a median home value of $662,000, according to census data. That was more than four times the national median of $151,000.
Cities that want to increase their pool of skilled labor need to foster an environment that welcomes outsiders, including immigrants and people from elsewhere in the U.S., said Richard Florida, professor of public policy at George Mason University.
"You know what they say, they say we want our kids back. We want them to stop leaving," Florida said, paraphrasing leaders of many depressed cities. "What they don't say is that they want other people's kids to move there."

Parents flee to suburbs
Most big cities are strapped with struggling public schools and need to attract outsiders to improve education levels among adults. It's possible, in part because unmarried college graduates are the most mobile demographic group, according to census data.
"Cities have realized that they can attract educated people and they don't need good schools to do it," said Florida, who wrote the book, "The Rise of the Creative Class."
But cities need good schools to keep people from fleeing to the suburbs once they become parents, said William Frey, a demographer at the Brookings Institution in Washington.
Frey pointed to Washington, a city with lagging public schools but impressive education levels among adults.
"D.C. is like a revolving door," Frey said. "These young people move in and then they move out when they want to have kids."
But Wankel, the Tennessee native, said she has no plans to leave Washington. She said she would miss the restaurants, museums and convenient public transportation, what she calls "civilization.">

Other states the will follow Mass?

I saw on the news that Mass. wants to pass a bill or whatever so that everyone has health coverage in the state. I believe they say that it is more than likely that it will pass. If it does pass in Mass. what other states do you think will likely follow?

I definately see the New England states following Mass. I see Minnesota doing it as well. I would love to see Illinois do it, but most likely that would never happen.>

For your Monday evening veiwing pleasure

http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...13046180631815>

What US city deserves the next Country's Tallest?

From the Poll above, what city do you believe deserves the next tallest in the country and why?>

Best Steakhouses in the US, by City

This is from Netscape.com:

http://netscape.digitalcity.com/best...fdefault%2ejsp>

First, Sun-belt cities takes people from the Great Lakes, now they want water there.

Published: Wednesday, July 27, 2005

Drilling could be banned in and under Great Lakes




WASHINGTON (AP) — Oil and gas drilling would be banned in the Great Lakes under a measure adopted by House and Senate negotiators Tuesday.

Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Menominee, had sought the prohibition amid concerns that the Great Lakes, a large source of drinking water and integral part of the state's tourism industry, could be threatened by an oil spill.

A temporary ban on drilling was set by Congress in 2001 and has been extended twice. The moratorium is set to expire in 2007.

"We have had several victories with temporary bans on drilling, but this provision is a permanent ban which will protect our country's most valuable fresh water resource for generations to come," Stupak said.

Stupak's amendment to the bill would prevent new permits or leases for oil and gas drilling in or under the Great Lakes. The measure was supported by Rep. John Dingell, D-Dearborn, and Rep. Fred Upton, R-St. Joseph.

Fresh water

The Great Lakes supply drinking water to more than 30 million people and make up about 20 percent of the world's fresh surface water.

Stupak and other members of Congress who represent districts around the lakes have said the permanent ban would prevent a state legislature or governor from allowing drilling.

Michigan, New York, Wisconsin, Illinois and Ohio have drilling bans in their states, but the bans are not found in Indiana, Pennsylvania and Minnesota.

Rep. Mike Rogers, R-Brighton, has opposed Stupak's approach, arguing that the powers should be left to the states in the region. Rogers, who also opposes drilling in the lakes, has said the federal ban could empower western states to gain access to drinking water from the Great Lakes.

http://www.vindy.com/content/nationa...4165903015.php

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I say, if you want the lovely, refreshing Great Lakes water, move back here. If you choose to live in Sun-Belt Cities, get your own water supplies.


(GL means Great Lakes and S and W means southern and western)
Lets debeat... go...


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where would you live?

if you could pick any city to live in in the four big areas, which city would it be in? you can use any factors to make your decision. pick a city in the northeast (maryland, delaware, pennsylvania, and the other states north of them), midwest (ohio, michigan, north dakota, kansas, missouri, and everything in between), southeast (virginia, west virginia, kentucky, oklahoma, texas, and everything in between), and west (everything west of the great plains states). you cannot pick the city or metro area you live i right now. you can pick a city you used to live in.

here are my choices.

northeast: buffalo
midwest: detroit
southeast: miami
west: las vegas>

City Competition - New England

Here is the New England poll part of the series. NYC was added to this competition for reasons of colonial history and balancing.>

City Competition - Great Lakes

This is the first of several City Competition Polls I will be posting to see what cities are HOT, and what are NOT.

You can vote for more than one city on the poll.

Enjoy>

State of our Urban Freeways(12 largest metros)

What are these cities going to do with all these freeways?

note:I know DFW so I have added new freeways being constructed, these are not our reconstructions just adding a freeway there wasn't one.






















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Housing Prices in Your City/ State?

It's getting ridiculous in California......

California Association of Realtors reports monthly sales price averages for all California Regions, June 2005

Calif. (single family house) $542,720
Calif. (condo) $433,690

Region
Central Valley $353,220
High Desert $290,510
Los Angeles $512,890
Monterey County $675,000
Santa Cruz County $793,000
Northern California $442,940
Northern Wine Country $640,970
Orange County $702,400
Palm Springs/Lower Desert $393,370
Riverside/San Bernardino $373,860
Sacramento $381,990
San Diego $614,120
San Francisco-Oakland $734,610
San Luis Obispo $570,870
Santa Barbara County $704,270
San Jose-Santa Clara $760,000
Ventura $685,760>

Atlanta vs. Detroit - Portman's Glass Hotels

In my second installment of building vs. building threads, vote for which of the Portman-built luxury hotels is better than the other. Reasons for comparisons: these are both glass buildings built in the mid 70s, raising the standard for postmodern buildings for years to come, there both luxury hotels (though I had no idea Marriott RenCen used to also be a Westin Hotel), they have glass elevators and they have logos on top (GM HQ).

Westin Peachtree Plaza Hotel, Atlanta





Marriott Renaissance Center Hotel, Detroit



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Buffalo & Niagara Attractions ... other than Niagara Falls

Im going to Niagara Falls/Buffalo this comming weekend. And I just wanna know if there are any other neat attractions there other than the waterfall ... I've tried just searching on google but its too damn confusing and it never gives me what im looking for ...

Thanks in Advance! >

Population DENSITY estimates

It's far too often we see a top 10 list of the largest cities in 2020. Then there are endless arguments about annexation and mergers metropolitan areas, etc...

So... anyone willing to venture and make a top 10 list based on population density?>

US Citizen's Misconceptions About New Orleans and Katrina Aftermath Revealed.....

Nation has blurry image of city
But look closer: Truth is in middle ground
Sunday, December 18, 2005
By Brian Thevenot
Staff writer


The Rev. William Maestri, the typically stoic superintendent of archdiocesan Catholic schools, nearly jumped from his seat as he watched the Saints-Jets game Nov. 27 in his temporary lodgings on the Archbishop Rummel High School campus, now a teeming, 3,000-student super-school serving Rummel students and other local students displaced by Hurricane Katrina.

Maestri listened as ESPN announcers, speculating about the future of New Orleans' National Football League franchise, launched into an assessment of the city. Color commentator Paul Maguire offered his view that any free agent would be a fool to join the Saints next season for anything less than a "whole lot of green -- I mean a whole lot of money."

Then Mike Patrick followed up with his summation of New Orleans: "You have a city in New Orleans with no infrastructure, no operating schools and only a couple of operating hospitals," he said from New York. "You have no economy to support a professional football team."

Maestri fumed as he heard the words. No schools?

The archdiocese already had reopened 66 of its 107 campuses across the metropolitan area, with 37,000 students, or about 75 percent of the system's prestorm enrollment. Sixteen of those schools are in Orleans Parish, serving 7,000 students, compared with 29 city schools serving 17,000 students before Katrina.

To Maestri and other leaders in business, politics and education, Patrick's comments are just one example of the city's new national image, in which perceptions tend to run toward one of two extremes and avoid the more complicated reality in between. At one end of the opinion spectrum, some people believe as Patrick apparently does: that New Orleans is all but dead. At the other extreme, others have yet to grasp the enormity of the flood damage and the rebuilding task ahead, believing that the federal government and charities already have dropped a money bomb to make the city whole.

Neither image has helped the city and its leaders, who find themselves walking a narrow and rocky public relations path in their attempt to lure the massive amount of government aid, private investment and charitable donations needed to boost New Orleans' prospects for long-term recovery. The New Orleans-is-dead school of thought leads to hopelessness, giving national power brokers the view that rebuilding isn't worth the money or trouble. Yet a belief that New Orleans will be fine makes the area a forgotten problem, just a blip on the crowded landscape of pressing national issues and more recent news developments.

Giving the outside world an accurate, glass-half-full take on the city's predicament will be paramount in drawing outside aid and investment, said Tim Ryan, chancellor of the University of New Orleans, which will reopen in January. What the man on the street in Idaho believes ultimately may not make much difference -- unless, of course, it affects his congressman's vote on aid to New Orleans, Ryan said.

"Some people seem to think, from watching CNN reports from the French Quarter, that everything's back to normal," Ryan said. "Others seem to think the city is completely closed and nonfunctional. . . . It does seem to be the extremes as opposed to what really is happening."


Schools, hospitals


In Orleans Parish, the public schools have been slow to recover -- only two had opened when Patrick spoke; a third opened the next day -- but plans call for nearly 20 to be operating in January, including most of the city's high-achieving magnet schools. Moreover, the delay is partly attributable to political squabbles about the chartering of several schools and a state takeover of almost the entire district -- both moves widely considered a sign of renewed hope for a system that was broke and dysfunctional long before the storm.

Meanwhile, the national perception of the city's progress often ignores the suburbs flanking the city. Public schools in Jefferson and St. Tammany parishes are packed, serving a significant number of former New Orleans students. And even St. Bernard Parish, where almost no house or building escaped the flood, has restarted a school in trailers, with no help from the Federal Emergency Management Agency. Public and private schools inside and outside New Orleans expect a sizable influx of students when the spring semester starts, as do colleges.

Tulane University, even as it has laid off scores of faculty members and reduced its course offerings, expects 85 percent of its students to return next month. The University of New Orleans expects two-thirds of its students to re-enroll. Xavier expects three-fourths, on a campus battered by both winds and flooding.

Local hospitals are struggling. Seven have closed, including University and Charity, and current capacity is strained, said Jack Finn, president of the Metropolitan Hospital Council of New Orleans. But other major players including East Jefferson, West Jefferson and Ochsner never closed during the storm or its aftermath. Many smaller hospitals, though up against some acute challenges, particularly staffing, are at least alive.


'An image challenge'


Communicating the city's progress, Mayor Ray Nagin said, remains as much of a challenge as securing the public and private investment necessary to make more progress.

"We have an image challenge throughout the country," Nagin said. "You ask what New Orleans is like today, and many people only have images of a city in crisis. And that's a concern, that they don't see the rebuilding that's going on."

At the same time, in Washington, D.C., "Katrina fatigue" has set in, Nagin said, with many bureaucrats and members of Congress either not grasping or downplaying the dire needs of the city compared with other national concerns.

"Iraq has been a major distraction, and some conservative folk seem to have all of a sudden gotten super budget-conscious," Nagin said.

From the displaced New Orleanians Nagin has visited in places such as Atlanta, Houston and Baton Rouge, the message is increasingly clear: "I'm hearing, 'I love where I am, but it's not New Orleans.' There's a general sense that people want to come back -- and come back now."

In Washington, U.S. Rep. William Jefferson, D-New Orleans, said he also has encountered both schools of thought about the city. He relayed a conversation with the Department of Homeland Security in which he sought help boosting medical services in New Orleans.

"They said, 'OK, we know you need medical services, but there's no people there, right? So you don't need that much,' " Jefferson said. "Some people think the city is paralyzed, that it's depopulating and it's never going to get out of it, so there's no need to spend money. . . . But that's an odd way of saying 'stay where you are.' "

The day after the Saints game, Maestri tried to vent his frustrations to ESPN, but the best he could do was to get, as he put it, an unresponsive voice on the telephone that "sounded like a 20-year-old, somebody's nephew at CNN who needed a job."

"They wouldn't hire me to comment about NFL football, of which I know nothing, and yet they hire him to comment about New Orleans, of which he knows nothing," Maestri told the person who took his call.

He said he hasn't heard back from ESPN.


Crowded suburbs


Part of the national perception about the impending death of New Orleans stems from outsiders viewing the current state of rebuilding in a city-centric way, rather than looking at the metropolitan area of 1.2 million people as a whole. The outsiders' take on New Orleans also almost completely ignores suburbs such as Jefferson and St. Tammany parishes, where residential and commercial life have quickly rebounded despite the severe damage incurred in isolated areas.

"If you look at the suburbs, it's a boomtown," Ryan said. "There's tremendous economic activity, but I don't think the world beyond New Orleans sees that. It's just not something the national press is reporting on."

Large suburban parishes Jefferson and St. Tammany, which sustained extensive but not catastrophic damage, find themselves booming with both business and population growth even as they struggle with their own rebuilding challenges. Both parishes have seen traffic skyrocket as people displaced from heavily damaged areas use the parishes as staging areas for the eventual return to their homes. Some people may stay permanently, but it seems many, if not most, want eventually to return to their homes and neighborhoods, the presidents of St. Tammany and Jefferson agreed.

Nagin said the current population of the city is about 100,000, down from about 475,000 before the storm. But although Houston and Atlanta have grabbed the spotlight as new homes for displaced New Orleanians, tens of thousands of people haven't gone nearly so far. As change-of-address filings with the U.S. Postal Service reveal, a third of displaced New Orleanians remain in the state, as do more than half of suburbanites from the area.

Jefferson Parish President Aaron Broussard said he expects his parish to serve as a temporary haven for New Orleanians for months, perhaps years.

"We're a staging area right now," he said. "We've had Christmaslike traffic for more than a month in Jefferson. Housing remains the No. 1 demand and concern."

That concern already has drawn substantial investment, in the form of national builder KB Home, in partnership with the Shaw Group, which recently announced plans to erect 20,000 houses on the West Bank of Jefferson Parish.

"That's an incredible vote of confidence in the future of the greater New Orleans area," Broussard said.


Housing, people boom


In St. Tammany Parish, the housing market has exploded with an influx of residents from Orleans and St. Bernard parishes. Houses are selling at a double-digit premium above their prestorm value, and rents have gone up even more. It's too soon to tell whether the many residents and businesses that have relocated to the north shore will stay.

St. Tammany officials say the parish's new population could swell to 350,000, from a prestorm level of 216,000. In many sectors of the parish's economy, business is booming. Traffic on St. Tammany roadways was up 74 percent in one recent survey, Parish President Kevin Davis said.

At the same time, large portions of the parish were hit hard by wind and flooding, prompting a huge reconstruction effort. "We're dealing with destruction, recovery and a booming population all at the same time," Davis said.

With the national viewpoint focused almost exclusively on New Orleans, Davis said, he is frustrated that officials in Washington seem to know little about either the destruction or the growth in St. Tammany, or if they even realize his parish is considered part of the New Orleans area. After weeks of fairly unproductive haggling with FEMA to get trailers, Davis let some of that frustration loose in a conference call with Donald Powell, the rebuilding czar appointed by President Bush.

"Do you realize that it's getting ready to be 32 degrees down here, and we've still got people living in cars, trucks and houses with no Sheetrock?" Davis said he told Powell.

"He said, 'Wait a minute, who was that? Who said that?' " Davis identified himself and repeated what he had said, but the conversation went on to the next parish president, with no concrete commitments of help.


Uptown bustling


In Orleans Parish, it would be hard to overstate the damage. Though some people already are starting to rebuild in devastated areas such as Lakeview and eastern New Orleans, the huge swaths of flooded territory remain largely dead zones. Even with photographs and video images spanning the globe, few people seem to understand the scope of the disaster until they see it firsthand.

Helen Betts of Kansas City has a close connection to the storm: Her daughter, Kate, who lives Uptown, stayed with her for more than a month after evacuating. Still, when Betts came to the city for the first time and drove through Lakeview, the 9th Ward and St. Bernard Parish, she was stunned.

"The area took up so much more space than I ever dreamed it would have," she said.

Local entrepreneur Troy Henry of Henry Consulting, a local contractor, now splits his time between New Orleans and Houston. Many Texans he meets have sympathy for the city but still don't have a real sense of how catastrophic the flood damage was, he said. Moreover, they seem to think the city already has dipped deeply into the federal treasury and become a heaven for contractors.

"They think the money has already arrived in New Orleans, that there's a pot of gold there and a feeding frenzy where people are getting busy rebuilding the city," Henry said. "The president makes an announcement, and they think the check arrived the next day."

At the same time, amid all the grim realities in flooded neighborhoods and the struggle for federal aid, outsiders tend to underestimate the level of private reinvestment and everyday life that already have returned to the city's historic neighborhoods on high ground along the river.

Back Uptown after her tour of the damage, Betts sat in the bar where her daughter works, The Kingpin, surrounded by all the signs of normal life in New Orleans: a full complement of patrons watching NFL football; a flea market outside on the neutral ground; a Mardi Gras dance team practicing its steps outside. With a combination of about three-fourths of its prestorm regulars and a new influx of contractors and other outsiders, the bar was ringing up more drinks than before the storm.

A few blocks away on Magazine Street, cars full of shoppers and diners crawled the length of the narrow thoroughfare, never topping 15 mph in traffic. There, as on St. Charles Avenue, the businesses owned by locals were almost all open even though fast-food chain restaurants remained closed.

At the corner of Magazine and Nashville streets, the Starbucks was still closed. But across the street, the locally owned coffee shop Café Luna had almost no empty seats on a Sunday afternoon, after an even busier morning.

"We've been popping," Zeke Falcon said as he served coffee to a steady stream of customers. "We're definitely busier than before the storm." Co-worker Dominique Ellis, 21, agreed, and said being open has created good will among customers.

"It's calmed down since those first days, after CC's reopened," she said of another neighborhood coffeehouse. "When I first started, three weeks after it opened, there were lines out the door. It was crazy. But we still have some days like today, where it's been nuts. . . . And we still have people who come in and tell us, 'Y'all were open first, so I'm not going anywhere else from now on."


Encouraging signs


In the long term, many people see schools as the prime bellwether for the metropolitan area's revival. Indeed, many families' decisions on whether and when to return may turn exclusively on education options.

Just four months after the storm, encouraging signs aren't hard to find. Jefferson Parish public schools already have climbed back to about 85 percent of their prestorm enrollment of about 49,000 students. Of 84 schools operating before the storm, 80 are open, Superintendent Diane Roussel said. That reality contrasts starkly with the perceptions of many people Roussel met on a recent vacation to California.

"They think there's still looting in the streets, that there's water, that we're not allowed back in," she said. "They don't have a real conception of what's up and running. I think that's because some of the TV focus has been on the areas of destruction."

Jefferson schools are serving at least 7,600 public school students displaced from other parishes. Another 4,700 public school students from New Orleans have enrolled in Jefferson private schools. The public system has not laid off any employees, Roussel said, because it anticipates it ultimately will serve at least 90 percent of its original enrollment, if not more. The situation is similar in archdiocesan Catholic schools, which serve students across the metropolitan area, including Orleans Parish.

Maestri and other administrators said families have sent a clear message: They want badly to come back home, and many already have. Some still have jobs and homes, but even some who don't have returned anyway, he said. Some students work as their family's sole breadwinners because their parents lost jobs, said Rummel High School President Michael Begg.

Rummel, operating on a platoon system with morning and afternoon shifts, has taken in displaced students from more than a dozen local Catholic schools. As an afternoon shift arrived recently, hallways and courtyards teemed with students wearing the uniforms of their home schools.

Of the original Rummel students, who have been attending the morning shift along with some transplants, 84 percent have returned, officials said, with more expected in January.

Another building on the campus has been taken over by Christian Brothers School, a private middle school formerly in City Park that has recaptured 95 percent of its 300-student enrollment.

Christian Pittman, 13, attended St. Charles Catholic in LaPlace for a short time but said he is thrilled to be back at his home school. He is living during the week with his uncle, Don Rowan, who is the school's religion teacher.

"We lived by the Lakefront and we got 2 feet of water in the house," Pittman said. "But my mom's trying to get a FEMA trailer."

The family will live in the trailer and the upstairs of their damaged home, he said. "I just want to stay in New Orleans," he said. "I like the atmosphere, and everybody likes it here. It's like a family."


A loyal bunch


Much of New Orleans' image problems predate the storm, Maestri said, and are in some sense self-inflicted, given that the city's own marketing has long focused on an excess of alcohol and food, and Carnival madness. Now, the city's future may depend on the extent to which it can highlight other equally strong sides, he said.

"We're seen as a fun place, a party place, and also a place with a lot of corruption," he said. "The rest of the country doesn't look at us as hard-working, committed to community.

"But New Orleans is a city of neighborhoods and a city of families, families who have gone to the same schools, worshipped in the churches and engaged in the same businesses for generations. And that's what's really distinctive about New Orleans," Maestri said.

"New Orleanians are fiercely loyal. It's hard to get a New Orleanian to leave New Orleans, and it's easy to get them to come back."


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